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It’s a shame what’s happened to radio

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A repeat of an article I first published on 30 July 2009. I’ve expanded and updated it.

I signed off the air for the last time in 1994, capping a nine-year side career on the radio. People still sometimes ask me if I miss being a disk jockey, and for a long time I always wistfully answered yes. But not anymore. It’s not that I would be rusty as heck after all these years – and boy, would I. It’s that radio has changed drastically, and it just wouldn’t be any fun for me today.

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I listened to a lot of radio when I was a teen. It was a companion when I was by myself doing homework or whatever. I called in requests and tried to win contests (but never did). I had a few favorite DJs, the ones who kept you listening because you wanted to know what they’d say next. The fun they were having made whatever I was doing more fun.

So when I got to college and found out about the campus radio station, WMHD, I had visions of being the kind of entertaining on-air companion I had enjoyed. I asked for and was given a weekly two-hour shift, just like every other disk jockey at the station. We could play whatever music we wanted, but my musical tastes were pretty narrow and I had trouble filling my time without always playing the same handful of artists. And I found out that wit failed me when the mic was open; I was lucky just to announce the next song without tripping over my tongue. My early shows were really pretty bad! Fortunately our puny signal covered just a few square miles, so hardly anybody heard me. Here’s a brief clip from the oldest show I have on tape, from 1986.

Needing to expand my repertoire, I had fun discovering classic and progressive rock of the ’60s and ’70s and even dabbling in heavy metal. I brought the music I found to my shift and learned how how to match key and tempo to transition smoothly between songs. I also started to find my on-air voice, as you can hear in this 1988 clip.

When I got my first part-time professional radio gig at WBOW, I had fun building and honing my on-air skills. There was a lot more to pro radio than what I’d done in college and it took time and practice to be good at it. If you’re old enough, you’ll remember the station in your town that everybody turned to for news, community information, and inoffensive music; in Terre Haute, that was WBOW. I was supposed to provide some “personality” between songs. Here’s a clip from 1992; you be the judge of whether I succeeded!

When I moved down the hall to the company’s rock station, WZZQ, I had fun connecting with listeners. I loved hearing from them when they called to make requests and play the contests. Over time, a handful of listeners came to know me on the air and called during my shifts to just say hello. I looked forward to their calls and meeting them at station events around town. It was great to know that I was providing the same kind of pleasure for them that radio gave me when I was young. It gave me the energy to do my best work, as you can hear in this clip from 1994.

After I left Terre Haute for Indianapolis I tried to get on part-time at a few stations. One polite rejection letter essentially said that I might have been fine in Terre Haute, but I wasn’t ready for the big time in Indianapolis. I decided to take the hint and went back to being just a listener, and now I’ve been out of radio more than three times as long as I was in it. In the intervening years, a number of things have changed that have made radio less fun to listen to and, I’m sure, to work in.

First, now that I’m in my 50s, advertisers don’t care about me anymore. Radio stations choose their formats to appeal to the groups that advertisers think spend the most money. Advertisers love thirtysomething moms, by the way, which is why there are so many country and adult-contemporary stations playing eleven hits in a row or forty minutes of uninterrupted music. No one radio station really reaches me.

Second, thanks to government deregulation radio is now big business. Owners have always been in it to make money, even when ownership was local or regional. But now very large corporations own so many stations and cost management seems to be more important than the quality of the on-air product. Live and local talent is all but gone, replaced by satellite-delivered formats and a form of prerecording called voicetracking. The evening jock on your favorite station probably recorded tonight’s shift this morning in a studio in Tampa or Minneapolis. Try calling the station you listen to in the evening or on the weekend. Nobody will answer, because nobody’s there. It’s cheaper that way.

Third, a change many years ago in the way radio ratings are measured has changed radio programming. As long as there have been ratings, radio stations have formatted themselves to maximize listening among the average, everyday people the ratings companies ask to track the stations they listen to. But the new way of measuring ratings, which uses a listening device called the Portable People Meter, showed a very different picture of actual listening from the older paper-diary method. It pinpointed exactly what caused listeners to change the station. This has led to stations framing programming in much shorter blocks with less human interaction with the audience. It’s why many stations have become anonymous appliances. Why listen to a station that doesn’t relate much with you when you can just listen to Spotify on shuffle instead?

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I’m painting a pretty one-dimensional picture of radio’s problems; they are actually layered and complex. I don’t pretend to get all of it, but what I do get is that it has squeezed all the fun out of the business for me. There are few on-air jobs left where you can hone your craft and relate to the listeners.

When I first posted this in 2009, I called out my two favorite local on-air talents, both of whom were among my last reasons to listen to commercial radio: Steve Simpson at news/talk WIBC and Tom Berg at classic-rock WKLU. But since then WKLU was sold, changed formats to contemporary Christian, and sent poor Tom packing. Tom moved on to a station in tiny Knox, Indiana — and then he passed away after a hard battle with cancer. Steve was shifted to mornings and later fired when the station wanted to shift to a deliberate conservative bias and Steve said he didn’t know how to play along. Steve moved on to WCCO in Minneapolis and, as of 2026, has just retired.

I’ve given up. When I want to hear music, I listen on my iPhone now. When I do listen to the radio, it’s almost always to hear the news on NPR.

Meanwhile, every station I ever worked for is off the air now. The fellow who owned WBOW and WZZQ got into legal trouble that cost him his licenses. WMHD gave up its license in 2014 as student interest dwindled and airshifts couldn’t be staffed.

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It’s foolish for me to assume that the institutions of my youth will endure forever. New things will come along and replace them. But at least half of why radio has become irrelevant is its own fault. And that’s a shame.

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47 responses to “It’s a shame what’s happened to radio”

Peter Miller

21 July 2026

The only bright spot in a very dismal situation is that you can get a live stream from around the world. So if your favorite station is a jazz station in the Bay Area you’re set if you have a streaming device of some sort. A station from my youth: Big 8 radio otherwise known as CKLW.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

There is actually a jazz station in the Bay area that is one of my favorites: KCSM! They have streamed for probably 20 years.

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21 July 2026

The only bright spot in a very dismal situation is that you can get a live stream from around the world. So if your favorite station is a jazz station in the Bay Area you’re set if you have a streaming device of some sort. A station from my youth: Big 8 radio otherwise known as CKLW.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

There is actually a jazz station in the Bay area that is one of my favorites: KCSM! They have streamed for probably 20 years.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

There is actually a jazz station in the Bay area that is one of my favorites: KCSM! They have streamed for probably 20 years.

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fishyfisharcade

21 July 2026

Your post reminded me of an old Human League track, WXJL Tonight, which tells a similar tale.

Big business has a habit of spoiling things, doesn’t it? Their employees fighting to prove their value by cutting costs: fewer staff, cheaper ingredients, more ads, the whole enshittified shebang. They seem to miss the fact that adding real value and making things better might be a more sustainable approach.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

It’s about making the business more efficient, and all incentives drive leaders to do that.

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fishyfisharcade

21 July 2026

Indeed, and efficiency is a good thing. It’s when it it stops being in service to the product and the customer that things go awry, I think.

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fishyfisharcade

21 July 2026

Your post reminded me of an old Human League track, WXJL Tonight, which tells a similar tale.

Big business has a habit of spoiling things, doesn’t it? Their employees fighting to prove their value by cutting costs: fewer staff, cheaper ingredients, more ads, the whole enshittified shebang. They seem to miss the fact that adding real value and making things better might be a more sustainable approach.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

It’s about making the business more efficient, and all incentives drive leaders to do that.

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fishyfisharcade

21 July 2026

Indeed, and efficiency is a good thing. It’s when it it stops being in service to the product and the customer that things go awry, I think.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

It’s about making the business more efficient, and all incentives drive leaders to do that.

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fishyfisharcade

21 July 2026

Indeed, and efficiency is a good thing. It’s when it it stops being in service to the product and the customer that things go awry, I think.

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fishyfisharcade

21 July 2026

Indeed, and efficiency is a good thing. It’s when it it stops being in service to the product and the customer that things go awry, I think.

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Dashon Ellis

21 July 2026

I love this! I think you have a definite vocal gift.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Why thank you!

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21 July 2026

I love this! I think you have a definite vocal gift.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Why thank you!

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Why thank you!

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commonsense

21 July 2026

You’re 100% on target here — radio today has become virtually unlistenable as it’s become “corporatized”. You hear the same songs repeated over and over and over, and the DJ’s (or whatever they call them these days) have zero personality.

But I believe that the absence of any sort of independent and unbiased news-radio stations is an even greater loss. Even in most large radio markets, commercial news-radio has ceased to exist — in many cases, replaced by awful sports radio; where the focus is on creating controversy, not reporting on sports. And while I try my best to listen to NPR news, it’s become so biased that I find myself turning it off after a couple of minutes. I kind of miss the good old days of switching the radio over to AM and quickly catching up on world and local news plus traffic and weather on WCBS-AM (newsradio 88 in New York) or WBZ (all news, all the time in Boston).

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

What I object to more than anything is the very long commercial blocks. I can tolerate the rest. In my time we had a rule of thumb that no “stop set” as we called them should have more than six “spots” because that’s about the number where people tune away. Now I hear far more spots than that in a stop.

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Martin

21 July 2026

It is a pity about NPR. They have many interesting segments that are informational, without being political.

It must be difficult to do news today, because of the polarization. One man’s bias is another man’s truth. But it must be possible. Walter Cronkite was widely reported to be a liberal, but his news broadcasts were considered unbiased by most listeners.

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21 July 2026

You’re 100% on target here — radio today has become virtually unlistenable as it’s become “corporatized”. You hear the same songs repeated over and over and over, and the DJ’s (or whatever they call them these days) have zero personality.

But I believe that the absence of any sort of independent and unbiased news-radio stations is an even greater loss. Even in most large radio markets, commercial news-radio has ceased to exist — in many cases, replaced by awful sports radio; where the focus is on creating controversy, not reporting on sports. And while I try my best to listen to NPR news, it’s become so biased that I find myself turning it off after a couple of minutes. I kind of miss the good old days of switching the radio over to AM and quickly catching up on world and local news plus traffic and weather on WCBS-AM (newsradio 88 in New York) or WBZ (all news, all the time in Boston).

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

What I object to more than anything is the very long commercial blocks. I can tolerate the rest. In my time we had a rule of thumb that no “stop set” as we called them should have more than six “spots” because that’s about the number where people tune away. Now I hear far more spots than that in a stop.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

What I object to more than anything is the very long commercial blocks. I can tolerate the rest. In my time we had a rule of thumb that no “stop set” as we called them should have more than six “spots” because that’s about the number where people tune away. Now I hear far more spots than that in a stop.

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Martin

21 July 2026

It is a pity about NPR. They have many interesting segments that are informational, without being political.

It must be difficult to do news today, because of the polarization. One man’s bias is another man’s truth. But it must be possible. Walter Cronkite was widely reported to be a liberal, but his news broadcasts were considered unbiased by most listeners.

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21 July 2026

It is a pity about NPR. They have many interesting segments that are informational, without being political.

It must be difficult to do news today, because of the polarization. One man’s bias is another man’s truth. But it must be possible. Walter Cronkite was widely reported to be a liberal, but his news broadcasts were considered unbiased by most listeners.

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indyjg

21 July 2026

There are two radio stations left in the Indianapolis market that I listen to while driving. Both are considered noncommercial educational. WICR 88.7 University of Indianapolis playing classical music from midnight to noon and jazz from noon to midnight with occasional UIndy sports programming. The second, and my favorite, is WITT 91.9 in Zionsville, an all volunteer run community radio station that relies largely on listener donations. Been on the air since 2009. Very eclectic programming . You will hear a bit of everything on that station. I love it. I usually donate a couple times a year to them during their pledge drives.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

My son pulled some shifts on WICR when he was at UIndy!

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indyjg

21 July 2026

There are two radio stations left in the Indianapolis market that I listen to while driving. Both are considered noncommercial educational. WICR 88.7 University of Indianapolis playing classical music from midnight to noon and jazz from noon to midnight with occasional UIndy sports programming. The second, and my favorite, is WITT 91.9 in Zionsville, an all volunteer run community radio station that relies largely on listener donations. Been on the air since 2009. Very eclectic programming . You will hear a bit of everything on that station. I love it. I usually donate a couple times a year to them during their pledge drives.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

My son pulled some shifts on WICR when he was at UIndy!

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

My son pulled some shifts on WICR when he was at UIndy!

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Andy Umbo

21 July 2026

We still have two radio stations in Milwaukee that have “real” DJ’s that design their shows, both non-commercial, of course. I listen to both depending on what’s on.

WMSE 91.7 is the radio station of the Milwaukee School of Engineering, and has shows that are entirely controlled by the DJ, which is both a good and bad thing. It’s now the only local station with jazz, only about 5 hours a week, and additionally a 3 hour Sunday morning Big Band show that’s been on for over 40 years, and a 3 hour instrumental only music show on Saturday night, also on for over 40 years, which is sort of like a cross between Hearts of Space and an 80’s era New Age show. Unfortunately, depending on who’s on, it can be unlistenable, with some DJ’s playing just the most god-awful cacophony that is so grating, you have to change channels. It’s a total example of why some sort of programming director needs to be in charge.

WYMS 88.9 Radio Milwaukee. This radio station calls itself Community Radio, and it’s format Eclectic Adult. This radio station has “some” sort of programming director, and is more listenable during the day. Unfortunately, this used to be the 24/7 local jazz radio station, supported by a local business tycoon, that had “real” DJ’s controlling their shows, and a lot of updates on local jazz events. All gone now, when the funder turned it over to people that wanted to make it a “community” radio station. I’ve heard a lot of esoteric bands on here that would never be played on an iHeart radio station, but went on to some fame in the music world. Not perfect, but better than commercial radio.

I basically listen to these two, with occasionally NPR. Every time one of my pals tells me you can stream practically anything you want, I say “that’s not the point”. I hate that I can’t get locally focused programming by turning on a 15 dollar radio. I don’t want to be constantly under the thumb of turning on a thousand dollar computer with an eighty dollar a month internet connection just to be able to listen to some music, which doesn’t have a local focus. To INDYJG’s point, when I lived in Indianapolis and Zionsville, those are the two stations I also listen to all the time!

https://wmse.org

https://radiomilwaukee.org

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

WMSE sounds like my kind of station.

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21 July 2026

We still have two radio stations in Milwaukee that have “real” DJ’s that design their shows, both non-commercial, of course. I listen to both depending on what’s on.

WMSE 91.7 is the radio station of the Milwaukee School of Engineering, and has shows that are entirely controlled by the DJ, which is both a good and bad thing. It’s now the only local station with jazz, only about 5 hours a week, and additionally a 3 hour Sunday morning Big Band show that’s been on for over 40 years, and a 3 hour instrumental only music show on Saturday night, also on for over 40 years, which is sort of like a cross between Hearts of Space and an 80’s era New Age show. Unfortunately, depending on who’s on, it can be unlistenable, with some DJ’s playing just the most god-awful cacophony that is so grating, you have to change channels. It’s a total example of why some sort of programming director needs to be in charge.

WYMS 88.9 Radio Milwaukee. This radio station calls itself Community Radio, and it’s format Eclectic Adult. This radio station has “some” sort of programming director, and is more listenable during the day. Unfortunately, this used to be the 24/7 local jazz radio station, supported by a local business tycoon, that had “real” DJ’s controlling their shows, and a lot of updates on local jazz events. All gone now, when the funder turned it over to people that wanted to make it a “community” radio station. I’ve heard a lot of esoteric bands on here that would never be played on an iHeart radio station, but went on to some fame in the music world. Not perfect, but better than commercial radio.

I basically listen to these two, with occasionally NPR. Every time one of my pals tells me you can stream practically anything you want, I say “that’s not the point”. I hate that I can’t get locally focused programming by turning on a 15 dollar radio. I don’t want to be constantly under the thumb of turning on a thousand dollar computer with an eighty dollar a month internet connection just to be able to listen to some music, which doesn’t have a local focus. To INDYJG’s point, when I lived in Indianapolis and Zionsville, those are the two stations I also listen to all the time!

https://wmse.org

https://wmse.org

https://radiomilwaukee.org

https://radiomilwaukee.org

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

WMSE sounds like my kind of station.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

WMSE sounds like my kind of station.

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-Nate

21 July 2026

So very true .

I’m a loner and discovered the radio in the late 1950’s, not much rock then, mostly WWII and standards, I do wish there were still those little “Peanut Whistle” AM stations that played it but as you’ve mentioned it’s all big $ now to everyone’s loss .

Now and then on the early morning weekends and over nights there are a few decent DJ’s but not very many .

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

The DJs so seldom have any say in the programming.

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-Nate

21 July 2026

So very true .

I’m a loner and discovered the radio in the late 1950’s, not much rock then, mostly WWII and standards, I do wish there were still those little “Peanut Whistle” AM stations that played it but as you’ve mentioned it’s all big $ now to everyone’s loss .

Now and then on the early morning weekends and over nights there are a few decent DJ’s but not very many .

-Nate

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

The DJs so seldom have any say in the programming.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

The DJs so seldom have any say in the programming.

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Ann Wilder

21 July 2026

My radio stint just when vinyls were in their last days – I was “Little Cousin Anne and the Gospel Caravan.”

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Part of your 15 minutes of fame!

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Ann Wilder

21 July 2026

My radio stint just when vinyls were in their last days – I was “Little Cousin Anne and the Gospel Caravan.”

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Part of your 15 minutes of fame!

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Part of your 15 minutes of fame!

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J P

21 July 2026

I think the twin trends of increasing scale and efficiency have made a lot of people rich. They have also ruined a lot of things in the process.

If you are not a 40-something mom or a graying guy who wants to hear The Doobie Brothers singing More Than A Feeling 3 times a day, there isn’t much commercial radio for you in this area.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Thing is, leaders have a fiduciary responsibility to deliver the results increasing scale and efficiency bring. It doesn’t matter whether they love radio or not.

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J P

21 July 2026

I think the twin trends of increasing scale and efficiency have made a lot of people rich. They have also ruined a lot of things in the process.

If you are not a 40-something mom or a graying guy who wants to hear The Doobie Brothers singing More Than A Feeling 3 times a day, there isn’t much commercial radio for you in this area.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Thing is, leaders have a fiduciary responsibility to deliver the results increasing scale and efficiency bring. It doesn’t matter whether they love radio or not.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Thing is, leaders have a fiduciary responsibility to deliver the results increasing scale and efficiency bring. It doesn’t matter whether they love radio or not.

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Ben Cotton

21 July 2026

I’ve always enjoyed the serendipity of radio. You never know what song will come on next and you can’t skip it if you don’t like it. Sometimes on a drive I find myself skipping a dozen or more songs in a row on Spotify. It’s not the same.

We’re lucky in Lafayette to have a student-run station at the high school that plays a good, deep mix of music. Granted, it’s mostly just a computerized playlist on shuffle, but sometimes if you’re lucky you’ll hear a teenager stumble through reading the news. It’s adorable.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

WJEF? WMHD switched to computerized shuffling in its later years as they just couldn’t gin up enough interest in students to man the broadcast booth.

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Ben Cotton

21 July 2026

I’ve always enjoyed the serendipity of radio. You never know what song will come on next and you can’t skip it if you don’t like it. Sometimes on a drive I find myself skipping a dozen or more songs in a row on Spotify. It’s not the same.

We’re lucky in Lafayette to have a student-run station at the high school that plays a good, deep mix of music. Granted, it’s mostly just a computerized playlist on shuffle, but sometimes if you’re lucky you’ll hear a teenager stumble through reading the news. It’s adorable.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

WJEF? WMHD switched to computerized shuffling in its later years as they just couldn’t gin up enough interest in students to man the broadcast booth.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

WJEF? WMHD switched to computerized shuffling in its later years as they just couldn’t gin up enough interest in students to man the broadcast booth.

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Martin

21 July 2026

Well, it was nice to hear your voice. Kind of like putting a face with a name. You did have a very good radio voice, IMO. I’ve always heard Midwesterners have the most “neutral” speaking accents, and yours confirms that.

I was never a big radio listener, but have been aware, of course, of the changes over the years. The different personalities of radio stations still exist, but maybe not as pronounced as they once were. Back in the glory days of AM, we had a couple of low-power stations in our small city in coastal SC. But many teenagers listed to WAPE, a 50,000 watt station in Jacksonville, FL, that beamed it’s signal in a narrow band along the coast. They used the sound of a gorilla bellowing as their shtick.

BTW, referencing your PSA in the 1988 clip, my admin person had cancer when 16, and went to Japan with parents on a fully-paid Make-a-Wish scholarship. She is 37 today and has remained cancer-free. She still talks about that trip.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

That Make-a-Wish PSA was in permanent rotation. It was a great charity.

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21 July 2026

Well, it was nice to hear your voice. Kind of like putting a face with a name. You did have a very good radio voice, IMO. I’ve always heard Midwesterners have the most “neutral” speaking accents, and yours confirms that.

I was never a big radio listener, but have been aware, of course, of the changes over the years. The different personalities of radio stations still exist, but maybe not as pronounced as they once were. Back in the glory days of AM, we had a couple of low-power stations in our small city in coastal SC. But many teenagers listed to WAPE, a 50,000 watt station in Jacksonville, FL, that beamed it’s signal in a narrow band along the coast. They used the sound of a gorilla bellowing as their shtick.

BTW, referencing your PSA in the 1988 clip, my admin person had cancer when 16, and went to Japan with parents on a fully-paid Make-a-Wish scholarship. She is 37 today and has remained cancer-free. She still talks about that trip.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

That Make-a-Wish PSA was in permanent rotation. It was a great charity.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

That Make-a-Wish PSA was in permanent rotation. It was a great charity.

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SteveB

21 July 2026

Radio has been a sonic wasteland for a while now. Since I have very eclectic musical tastes, if we’re driving for more than just a quick trip around town, I plug my iPhone into the car and listen to playlists I’ve created or songs/albums on it. When I do listen to radio, like you, it’s pretty much all NPR.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Radio’s never been the right place to go to really discover music. It’s always been the place to find out what everybody likes to listen to, no matter how banal.

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21 July 2026

Radio has been a sonic wasteland for a while now. Since I have very eclectic musical tastes, if we’re driving for more than just a quick trip around town, I plug my iPhone into the car and listen to playlists I’ve created or songs/albums on it. When I do listen to radio, like you, it’s pretty much all NPR.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Radio’s never been the right place to go to really discover music. It’s always been the place to find out what everybody likes to listen to, no matter how banal.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Radio’s never been the right place to go to really discover music. It’s always been the place to find out what everybody likes to listen to, no matter how banal.

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Chad Wallace

21 July 2026

I grew up literally across the street from a top 40 radio station in Springfield, IL (WCVS), and as a loner, radio was my constant companion. I too used to call in with requests and answer questions on contests (won a couple T shirts and a car wash one time). I miss the glory days of WLS Chicago (morning ‘Animal Stories’ and evening ‘boogie check’) and KAAY Little Rock (Beaker Street).

Today the radio business has to be the stupidest, most incompetent money-making-in-spite-of-itself ‘scam’ out there. I don’t know much about the business, but it’s apparent that as you have mentioned, its all electronic pre-programmed stuff with no real talent remaining on the air. Apparently there’s a company that compiles play lists of songs they think are, or will be popular today with their listening audiences, and station ownership pays blindly for this list. How else can one all of a sudden hear an obscure 80’s song from Supertramp in Illinois and the same day hear the same tune on a station in Oklahoma.

I guess I’m pretty much a luddite, as I don’t have XM radio, I don’t have Alexa or Siri to find songs for me, and I listen daily to the radio for background noise as I putter around the house. or in the car as I run errands. But each day I get more disgusted at how far the industry has fallen since the days of my youth.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

The nationalization of radio, despite stations still having local broadcast radiuses, is a sad loss. I remember when a station could still break a hit locally.

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21 July 2026

I grew up literally across the street from a top 40 radio station in Springfield, IL (WCVS), and as a loner, radio was my constant companion. I too used to call in with requests and answer questions on contests (won a couple T shirts and a car wash one time). I miss the glory days of WLS Chicago (morning ‘Animal Stories’ and evening ‘boogie check’) and KAAY Little Rock (Beaker Street).

Today the radio business has to be the stupidest, most incompetent money-making-in-spite-of-itself ‘scam’ out there. I don’t know much about the business, but it’s apparent that as you have mentioned, its all electronic pre-programmed stuff with no real talent remaining on the air. Apparently there’s a company that compiles play lists of songs they think are, or will be popular today with their listening audiences, and station ownership pays blindly for this list. How else can one all of a sudden hear an obscure 80’s song from Supertramp in Illinois and the same day hear the same tune on a station in Oklahoma.

I guess I’m pretty much a luddite, as I don’t have XM radio, I don’t have Alexa or Siri to find songs for me, and I listen daily to the radio for background noise as I putter around the house. or in the car as I run errands. But each day I get more disgusted at how far the industry has fallen since the days of my youth.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

The nationalization of radio, despite stations still having local broadcast radiuses, is a sad loss. I remember when a station could still break a hit locally.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

The nationalization of radio, despite stations still having local broadcast radiuses, is a sad loss. I remember when a station could still break a hit locally.

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Simon Hollander

21 July 2026

Every now and then I get the itch to search Ebay for an example of our old Zenith table model radio, the one with the gold plastic oval over the grille. The problem is that when I turn it on I’ll receive contemporary programming, not the music of a saner, less frenetic time.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Oh nice. I had a circa 1950 Philco table radio for a long time, and the adult standards AM station in Terre Haute used to sound fantastic on it.

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Andy Umbo

21 July 2026

Simon, love the old radios and if you want the “vintage” experience: listen to baseball on old radios! When Bob Uecker was still alive, I listened to his radio broadcasts of the Brewers on AM, and on a 1950’s era table radio. Sometimes, the games were even shown on LatinX TV stations like Telemundo, and we’d just turn down the sound and listen to Bob call the game on AM radio. For the full 50’s radio experience, I used to go to a pals house, and listen to the game on an old radio, while sitting with him in the garage smoking cigars!

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21 July 2026

Every now and then I get the itch to search Ebay for an example of our old Zenith table model radio, the one with the gold plastic oval over the grille. The problem is that when I turn it on I’ll receive contemporary programming, not the music of a saner, less frenetic time.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Oh nice. I had a circa 1950 Philco table radio for a long time, and the adult standards AM station in Terre Haute used to sound fantastic on it.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

Oh nice. I had a circa 1950 Philco table radio for a long time, and the adult standards AM station in Terre Haute used to sound fantastic on it.

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Andy Umbo

21 July 2026

Simon, love the old radios and if you want the “vintage” experience: listen to baseball on old radios! When Bob Uecker was still alive, I listened to his radio broadcasts of the Brewers on AM, and on a 1950’s era table radio. Sometimes, the games were even shown on LatinX TV stations like Telemundo, and we’d just turn down the sound and listen to Bob call the game on AM radio. For the full 50’s radio experience, I used to go to a pals house, and listen to the game on an old radio, while sitting with him in the garage smoking cigars!

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21 July 2026

Simon, love the old radios and if you want the “vintage” experience: listen to baseball on old radios! When Bob Uecker was still alive, I listened to his radio broadcasts of the Brewers on AM, and on a 1950’s era table radio. Sometimes, the games were even shown on LatinX TV stations like Telemundo, and we’d just turn down the sound and listen to Bob call the game on AM radio. For the full 50’s radio experience, I used to go to a pals house, and listen to the game on an old radio, while sitting with him in the garage smoking cigars!

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Andy Karlson

21 July 2026

One thing I love about living in Madison, WI, is the relative plethora of community-supported radio stations: 3 NPR stations (one news station for AM and FM each, and a classical station that also plays folk, jazz, and world music); the UW radio station; WORT (a yet-vital relic of Madison’s deeply weird and radical 1960s-70s, and one of the only sources of truly local news left); and the newcomer on the scene, WVMO (a decade old, playing extremely broadly defined “roots and Americana” music, with deep attention to its community fabric).

I appreciate and rely on these stations not only to have the chance to hear new and occasionally weird music (and hosts), but as a sort of moral reassurance that not everything in this country has been corporatized and flattened, or sucked dry by Private Equity. Same reason I still love film photography and vinyl records: there’s more of the human creative element in it, and that spark of vitality is sorely needed right now.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

You really are fortunate in Madison, for sure.

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21 July 2026

One thing I love about living in Madison, WI, is the relative plethora of community-supported radio stations: 3 NPR stations (one news station for AM and FM each, and a classical station that also plays folk, jazz, and world music); the UW radio station; WORT (a yet-vital relic of Madison’s deeply weird and radical 1960s-70s, and one of the only sources of truly local news left); and the newcomer on the scene, WVMO (a decade old, playing extremely broadly defined “roots and Americana” music, with deep attention to its community fabric).

I appreciate and rely on these stations not only to have the chance to hear new and occasionally weird music (and hosts), but as a sort of moral reassurance that not everything in this country has been corporatized and flattened, or sucked dry by Private Equity. Same reason I still love film photography and vinyl records: there’s more of the human creative element in it, and that spark of vitality is sorely needed right now.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

You really are fortunate in Madison, for sure.

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

You really are fortunate in Madison, for sure.

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tbm3fan

21 July 2026

My station in the Bay Area was KFOG. Made sure to listen at 10:00 AM for 10 at 10 by Dave Morey who created the show and then retired in 2008. He created the show in 1982 and one always made sure to listen. It was repeated at 10:00 PM. It was a Bay Area institution.

https://www.kfogforever.com/people/dave-morey

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Jim Grey

21 July 2026

I used to listen to Dr. Demento when I was a teenager and I heard of KFOG through his show, as I guess it was one of the stations that carried it.

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